PostmarketOS has had really strange priorities lately. I’m not a fan of the whole ethos of Ubuntu mobile (including their use of SystemD) but at least they have stuck to actually getting every feature working on some devices with reasonable specs. My computer uses KDE and OpenRC and has far fewer issues than it did on SystemD. This feels like a waste of resources to reinvent the wheel.
Reinventing the wheel is what they were doing without Systemd. On their announcement they cite various instances of having to write polyfills and ending up with basically ‘Systemd at home’ but buggier.
The project is in an too early phase to debate over SystemD. Can you guys please hold back with these arguments until pmOS reaches at least 4% market share.
There is no minimum market share threshold to discuss the way the software you use is being developed and PostmarketOS will not reach 4% in the foreseeable future (and it probably never will). Desktop Linux only just reached that threshold after decades of work and systemd arguments have been happening for years regardless. The conditions for mobile Linux are considerably less favorable. If we can’t discuss systemd until 4% is reached, we can’t discuss systemd ever. Which is fair, because the systemd horse has already been beaten to death at this point. But not because it hasn’t reached some arbitrary 4% threshold. That makes no sense.
If we can’t discuss systemd until 4% is reached, we can’t discuss systemd ever. Which is fair, because the systemd horse has already been beaten to death at this point.
PostmarketOS has had really strange priorities lately. I’m not a fan of the whole ethos of Ubuntu mobile (including their use of SystemD) but at least they have stuck to actually getting every feature working on some devices with reasonable specs. My computer uses KDE and OpenRC and has far fewer issues than it did on SystemD. This feels like a waste of resources to reinvent the wheel.
Reinventing the wheel is what they were doing without Systemd.
On their announcement they cite various instances of having to write polyfills and ending up with basically ‘Systemd at home’ but buggier.
Weird. We had those wheels before Lennart’s cancer showed up.
No, init systems sucked before. It was a bunch of poorly documented and poorly managed shell scripts
We had this fight for years, your side lost. Evolve or die.
I honestly don’t know why you were downvoted so much. You could have get very different responses in a different forum.
Now, Microsoft employee. And everybody is OK with that. New generations suck.
The project is in an too early phase to debate over SystemD. Can you guys please hold back with these arguments until pmOS reaches at least 4% market share.
There is no minimum market share threshold to discuss the way the software you use is being developed and PostmarketOS will not reach 4% in the foreseeable future (and it probably never will). Desktop Linux only just reached that threshold after decades of work and systemd arguments have been happening for years regardless. The conditions for mobile Linux are considerably less favorable. If we can’t discuss systemd until 4% is reached, we can’t discuss systemd ever. Which is fair, because the systemd horse has already been beaten to death at this point. But not because it hasn’t reached some arbitrary 4% threshold. That makes no sense.
Exactly :)
ive been working on migrating away from systemd myself, so much headaches. I like the services setup, but man the issues can sometimes be baffling
Isn’t Linux without systemd just a hobbyists niche exercise in masturbation though, let’s be real.
I mean, I don’t really care what it is so long as it works fine.